From a conversation heard on another site...
Davidstein says: One of the most inspiring images of World War Two has been 4 soldiers raising a giant American flag at Iwo Jima. Statues or sculptures of the flag raising are major monuments around the country. One of the soldiers raising the Iwo Jima flag is a Native American Indian named Hayes. Indians accord him great honor. They're very proud of him.
The loss of a battle or surrender of a nation is when the flag is removed. The national anthem mentions that.
You're committing a crime when you place another flag higher than the United States' flag. It's like watching the Japanese flag raised where the American flag had once been.
you can say you support America's enemies, but doing anything to support them, during war time is treason. Generally, there are few people who burn flags or commit public treason because American citizens still defend the flag even if their government doesn't defend it. You see Americans privately stop flag burnings, by physically attacking the person doing the burning.
As one person put it, you have the right to burn a flag, and I have the right to punch you in the nose for burning it. You don't see anyone in America republishing Danish cartoons, because Moslems took the an even stronger attitude. Call it private censorship.
catboxer asks: Question: What is the only legal, officially prescribed method for disposing of a damaged or used American flag?
The proposed constitutional amendment would be an anti-thoughtcrime measure.
Round up the usual suspects.
combatkoala says: Guess its time to lock up the boy scouts, and the VFW, not to mention those Military members who have the nerve to burn the flag in special ceremonies on post.
catboxer says: Yeah, Koala, but they're not suspects, and even though they burn the flag, they don't think subversive thoughts while they're doing it. So they're o.k.
Which is exactly why this amendment is nothing more than a baby pacifier for drooling idiots. What's being proposed is that we actually prohibit not an act, but a thought.
Thoughtcrime.
See George Orwell's 1984.
Stitch813 asks: But what happens if the boy scouts burn the flag at the same time they are chanting Down with Bush? Maybe that is what the congressmen were worried about?
catboxer replies: Excellent question. And what happens to girl scouts who, while reciting the pledge of allegience, are thinking about mounting a terrorist campaign of planting explosives in the cookies and selling them in government buildings such as CIA headquarters...
Not doing those things, mind you, just thinking about them.
The rule is that if you commit thoughtcrime, sooner or later you'll be found out. Your guilty facial expression will reveal you. Then the thought police will come and get you.
And then it's room 101.
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